I had a Pacer for about 6 months: all Ultegra, decent wheels, but it was one size too large for me. The ride was great and as expected tig welded cromo - smooth and similar to steel as it gets. Great frame price wise, would buy another if I could find in my size. Never ridden any other cromo frames, but many people ride Surly bikes and all are happy with them..... cant go wrong with Pacer.