Thank you very much for the supportive comments ,You know who you are .I know those bars are lousy.they are too narrow.I just need to round up the correct weinmann calipers.I have a set of blue Schwinn grips fromanother bike .they are sparkly,Is that correct ?They are not extrrememly valuable to be saved for a stingray ? Do solid color ones ...black I think...I will look at Pastorbob's pics.