Just a thought... when I get to the 5 way intersections, if I have to turn, I jump into the pedestrian crosswalk. The law states that I can, so I do. Then when the light turns green, I just cross with pedestrians and avoid that inevitable rush for turning after the light turns red with the 3- 5 cars that rush into the intersection before the oncoming traffic for the green light. Oddrider, I hope this makes sense.

5 way intersections really suck. The Chicago police department should be required to stand in all 5 way intersections and direct traffic. There are too many accidents there, and they are crazy. How 'bout that 5 way intersection at Lincoln, Ashland and Belmont, for instance?

Koffee