we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, okay? i have a feeling if we were talking face to face it wouldn't be a problem, but the written word can be read into all sorts of ways. i'm sure i'm reading things in your message that you didn't intend, and it's probably the same for you.

perhaps all this confusion can be summed up in a single question - which i should have asked directly:

what are somethings that you (all of us in the forum) have done that somebody else would precieve as snobbery?

for me, a lot of times it's ignoring people. one time i told a guy that i didn't want him to draft...he got huffy. another time a person was drafting i got out of the saddle and tried to drop him. i wonder if those are real acts of snobbery (maybe they are) or just a case where somebody would take it the wrong way.
my girlfriend, who has no cycling experience, has admitted to me that she thought almost all 'serious' roadies were out to run her off the road. i think i've been able to change her thinking somewhat, but it's just interesting to me that from her point of view, they are hostile people to watch out for. i don't really think it's fair to say that, but i know that's a very common perception of cycling.