I like the Nitto bars also but my favorite randonneur bar was made by Pivo, here is a pic of one on my Miyata. My Motobecane Grand Tour had a Beleri Randonneur bar that was fairly comfortable but I like the Pivo more, I think the curve of the drops on the Beleri is tighter and they didn't have much rise from the stem. I would get measurements but I sold the Moto Grand Tour last Summer. Don