Our usual joke in the British venue is that, "If they were actually built that well when they were new, Honda would still only be making 50cc step-throughs."
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“No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”
H.L. Mencken, (1926)