Yeah, I was thinking about that. But umm for lack of a better reason I'm not too keen on what it might look like. **** it I'll try it but I guess I need another reason to spend money, haha.

as far as a drop stem, I believe that it is a drop stem 58 degrees of drop and rise if I flip it. I believe the jaguar stems are ony as short as 80 mm, pearls are 60 mm and the nitto deluxes are 50mm. I may jus get a deluxe but it does not look as its name implies.

tdhk