This thread started off about an idiot that killed a 16yo. Not it's degenerated to a discussion about cars. How about getting back on track. It's not about the car but the person behind the wheel. If I owned a Corvette capable of doing 120+MPH doesn't mean I will do 120+MPH. Remember, this guy has killed before, someone on a steamroller no less. How fast to need to go to kill someone operating a steamroller?