good to know, thanks.

btw , you asked me where my commute is, I live in Phoenixville pa just outside of Philly and my commute is about 50% on the Valley Forge Bike trail and about 50% on back roads. I can't really complain about that which is why I picked up this bike to commute one. There is a section where there is no shoulder and really bad traffic and I was doing the ride on my lwb recumbent and it got really old getting run off the road, hence the raleigh.

Anyway, thanks again for the info.