I love Brooks saddles, I have three (black B-17, brown B-17 Narrow, green Brooks Pro) and they all feel great on the rear end, its a saddle that one uses if you actually SIT on a saddle for long periods of time, other wise you'll never know the magic of it most people buy em, ride around with them for a while and barely sit on em then say that they suck when in all reality they are great. I find them to be real comfy right out of the box but alot of riders like to break them in a bit, not something you want if you dont spend at least 80% of the time in the saddle I have seen many fg and ss's with Brooks saddles in Philly but don't really know how long they keep them on.