Originally Posted by
redtires
First off, english or italian shell and what type of bb? If your using a cup and cone, with a lockring, yeah, you've really got to get a good purchase on that lockring and crank it, while at the same time keeping the cup from threading in with it. If this is what your doing, and it's not working, sounds to me like you should probably have your bb shell faced to ensure the fixed cup and the lockring are truly flat and tight against the surface. Another thing to check is making sure you don't have a crack in your frame or the adjustable cup of the bb.
right, i should have mentioned that it's not italian. whoever thought that concept up in the first place i wonder?
when i tighten it, i take the pin pliers and tighten the adjustable cup until there is no play, keeping the lock ring a turn or so from tight. then i hold the cup steady with the pin pliers and reef that lock ring on with a lockring wrench. there's always some slippage with the pin pliers, though, so it usually takes three or four tries until it's "right", but i assume that's normal.
i'm planning on re-inspecting the fixed cup tonight. i did take it off on my last re-grease, but i'm pretty sure i put that sucker on tight. will check for facing.