Originally Posted by
iltb-2
Please furnish a program so I won't have to guess who those caring marketeers are who are making the "good bike for commuting" and who is making the commuting bike that sells but is no good?
I believe that's what the OP attempted to do. At least he listed what he feels the good choices are.
Is there an overriding point to your posts, or do you just like to be contrary?
It's OK either way. Sometimes I just like the debate too.