Originally Posted by boze
i'm just bitter that you can't get any new steel bikes other than some cheap 520 frame like a Brava or something for under $1100 pre tax
Why do you consider the Bava cheap? You’re asking for 105 and 853 for under a grand? That’s like asking for a sports car for under $15k, it just costs too much for the components and materials.
Originally Posted by boze
and let me just say that i don't know what country the Gunnar frames are made in but that's still nearly a 62% price difference pre tax for the same bike. so this "buy american" angle is irrelevant.
Last time I heard, Gunnar’s are made by Waterford in Waterford, WI. There are always going to be deals to had on eBay or at the end of season, but if you are paying retail, everyone needs their margin. Bike shops need their cut to stay in business.
I think I understand your point, but you’re looking at pretty high quality bikes and they just don’t come cheap.
-murray