Originally Posted by
mrt10x
It’s the "does the job just as well" part that is ignorant. I can tell you as the owner of two Motobecanes that they are fine bikes. Functional and sturdy, but they do not do the job "just as well" as a truly high end CF bike. In fact I was shocked at the difference between Immortal Force frame and the Calfee frame the parts eventually ended up on. Is that a fair comparison, $1800 bike vs. $3500 frame? Absolutely not, but that is the comparison you are making. And it is dead wrong.
Do you want a nice ride, with nice components, for a great price? Buy a Moto, they are well worth the money. But do not be ignorant and think that you are getting a bike on par with a top end Orbea, Pinarello, or Cervelo.
+1 re. "on-par" notions!
Analogous to saying for example, that a decent Hyundai is on par with Lexus (or BMW for that matter) because of similar steel material, somewhat similar hood/headlight, rear trunk & tail-light designs, all having 4 wheels, airbags, a-c, etc... you get the idea.
For sure, the Hyundai will get the job done & get you from point A to B, for many years, at a fraction of the price of the Lexus or BMW.
Are they "on par" with each other? Depends on what your definition of "on par" is. One thing's for sure- They're definitely not on par at the used car lot!
It all depends on where YOU (
ie. ccsami4X4) draw your line on needs and wants.
Another words, still others may even think that buying a Hyundai is also "going way over-board" and more than is actually necessary- when a simple public transportation-pass, bike, walk and friends would be ample.
Heck I'm sure you can surely find a majority of your non-cycling friends who would certainly even consider that "bargain" $1800 BD bike, to be a very foolish expenditure.