Originally Posted by nayr497

A stock Pista is definitely not heavy. If we are talking a full carbon road bike, maybe, but as for steel framed bicycles, it most certainly is not.

Pistas were already standard issue in some major American cities a few years ago. But, most of those "riders" have already put them up on craigslist since the fun factor has worn off for them. Ain't nothin' like getting the gear to get into something first and once trying it realizing it is harder or more work than one is ready to put forth.

And while were on the topic, since I feel a "I hate Pistas and anyone who rides one" post coming, I don't think there is much a difference between someone who runs out and buys a Pista and someone who spends a few more weeks looking around and sourcing parts and has a shop build them a full NJS track bike. I think a line in the sand needs to be drawn.

Pista riders getting bashed left and right, and some deservedly so, for jumping in so fast. But what about the people who either have more money or drop more money for some high-end bike but can't point at their bottom bracket if you asked them to?

I think the person who spends $2000 on a track bike but doesn't ride more than a few miles a week and can't even replace their tubes is a much bigger ****** than someone who throws down $500 on a Pista. The person with the more expensive bike is really just working harder and that much more concerned with street cred and appearances than the Pista owner.

I'd like the pictures thread to have the requirement of posting what you did to the bike yourself. Posting a stock Pista picture isn't exciting, but I don't think posting a Nagasawa with a tri-spoke and all that jazz is that exciting if the owner is just some d-bag with a Chrome bag, rolled up $200 denim, some slip-on Vans and the comb over I-listen-to-the-Shins haircut.

And as for this poll: I think both frames/bicycles have lots of potential.