I ride for Inland construction, yeah, I found those ninth pics and I have to agree ,they are good , I appreciate the response. I am only a cat4 but working my way up so I can be fast enough to dawn the blacksheep cartel kit ! I stayed out way too long on the 4/5 trying to lap the field on my own....you don't have to say it. , .. and was succesful on the 3/4 race with two other guys. Anyway thanks for the info.