Originally Posted by
Bekologist
ah, the "he said, she said" with a little vacuous chestbeating from the south.
design of public space and its' transportational use by the majority of bicyclists(alanbikehuston), or just vc (chipseal's) bicycling antics along cooridors motorists drive 50+?
chipseal, I'm very proud of your abilites bicycling in traffic, don't expect kids, elderly or most bicyclists for that matter to share your enthusiasm for riding heavy, dense, fast traffic flows.
At high speeds of passing traffic, john forestor endorses hugging the curb of high speed narrow laned roads. vc and the fallacy 'cyclists fare best as vehicles' cannot even be practiced by the founder...vc is a bankrupt ideology.
Even if there was a modicum of truth in what Bek says, it would not refute the VC principle that cyclists who ride like ChipSeal fare best.
The fact that many others do not have skills, experience or knowledge to do so, and some (elderly and children) are not physically capable, has always been acknowledged and is a separate matter.
But anyone who can comfortably ride on totally physically segregated bike paths for several miles at an average speed of 10-12 mph or higher has the physical capability to ride in traffic over similar terrain. What he or she may not have are the skills, knowledge or experience to ride in traffic reasonably safely, but that can be attained easily enough. A lack of interest in them attaining the necessary skills, knowledge, experience or desire is not any more of a legitimate excuse to create accommodating facilities for them than would be the refusal of someone to take driver training an excuse to create motoring facilities that are safe for untrained drivers (bumper cars for everyone, anyone?).