Originally Posted by
Jeffbeerman2
[URL="http://www.surlybikes.com/crosscheck_comp.html"]If you used the albatross bar you would move the hand position back without having to use a very-short stem.
I'm puzzled how a short stem can be a handling problem (as alluded to by the OP) if Albatross bars handle fine. They seem to - people love them.
Seems to me the albatross is functionally identical to a short stem, in that the same mechanical effect would be had with a bar shaped like an I and zero-length stem. It's kind of irrelevant that there is stem and bar out forward, when all that counts mechanically is the hand position relative to the pivot.
I have an albatross coming and I'm itching to get it - since my position on a straight bar is too low and forward right now... I'll see what the handling difference is.