Old 02-23-08 | 10:18 AM
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From: Becket, MA
Originally Posted by Helmet Head
Buzzman, it is a fact. It's a statement about what my opinion is.
My opinion is that there is no bike lane that brings more benefit than harm to cyclists.
But I'm waiting for the one example of a road with a bike lane that would not be improved as beneficial to cyclists with the removal of the bike lane stripe.

If you are of the mind that because it is your opinion it is a fact then I understand why I have such difficulty following your logic. In that case, all of your opinions are facts and no wonder why you are bollocksed when you are challenged.

I have written occasionally about the improvements in NYC since more bike lanes were added to streets and avenues. These are tangible, demonstrable, practical improvements. It has increased ridership and the "Bicyclist Fatalities and Serious Injuries in New York City 1996-2005" study, which was released in 2006, demonstrated the effectiveness of the added bike lanes. As anyone who rides in NYC can tell you the bike lanes have by no means solved all the problems nor are they, in and of themselves, perfect. There is still a long way to go but it is a beginning. NYC's DOT in response to the aforementioned study is adding yet more bike lanes. This must cause you such grief and consternation since it is so contrary to your opinion and therefore, in your mind, so contrary to the "facts". I hate to be the one to break it to you but bike lanes are improving things for cyclists in NYC and not in order to get bikes out of the way of cars but the opposite- to get the cars out of the way of bikes. To increase ridership and decrease the use of the private automobile. (ye gads! an "anti-motorist" agenda promoting bike lanes when the whole bikeway thing was, according to JF, a means by which a motoring public could get bikes out of the way- Koyaanisqatsi!)

But this argument has been made in A&S again and again and again and again. The study was discussed at great length and still I am sure you are not convinced of the conclusions of the DOT and others about the efficacy of bike lanes. You can listen to me and thousands of others who can provide anecdotal and, as I have in the past, video of riding in NYC's bike lanes safely and happily negotiating between the bike lane and other traffic lanes when necessary.

But since your opinion is a fact all of this will fall on deaf ears and like a bicycle wheel in a training stand it will go round and round and round but take us nowhere. But I suppose it's good for the exercise.
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