Originally Posted by
buzzman
If you are of the mind that because it is your opinion it is a fact then I understand why I have such difficulty following your logic. In that case, all of your opinions are facts and no wonder why you are bollocksed when you are challenged.
Please distinguish between X being a fact and
someone's opinion that X is true being a fact.
"JFK was a great president" is not a fact.
"Bill Clinton believes JFK was a great president" is a fact.
Get it?
Originally Posted by
buzzman
I have written occasionally about the improvements in NYC since more bike lanes were added to streets and avenues. These are tangible, demonstrable, practical improvements. It has increased ridership and the "Bicyclist Fatalities and Serious Injuries in New York City 1996-2005" study, which was released in 2006, demonstrated the effectiveness of the added bike lanes. As anyone who rides in NYC can tell you the bike lanes have by no means solved all the problems nor are they, in and of themselves, perfect. There is still a long way to go but it is a beginning. NYC's DOT in response to the aforementioned study is adding yet more bike lanes. This must cause you such grief and consternation since it is so contrary to your opinion and therefore, in your mind, so contrary to the "facts". I hate to be the one to break it to you but bike lanes are improving things for cyclists in NYC and not in order to get bikes out of the way of cars but the opposite- to get the cars out of the way of bikes. To increase ridership and decrease the use of the private automobile. (ye gads! an "anti-motorist" agenda promoting bike lanes when the whole bikeway thing was, according to JF, a means by which a motoring public could get bikes out of the way- Koyaanisqatsi!)
But this argument has been made in A&S again and again and again and again. The study was discussed at great length and still I am sure you are not convinced of the conclusions of the DOT and others about the efficacy of bike lanes. You can listen to me and thousands of others who can provide anecdotal and, as I have in the past, video of riding in NYC's bike lanes safely and happily negotiating between the bike lane and other traffic lanes when necessary.
I have never questioned whether bike lanes
plus a whole bunch of other stuff (including sreet realignments, etc.) might be beneficial to cyclists - though I believe all the benefits ultimately come from
all the other stuff.
Please name the street upon which is located a bike lane for which removal of the bike lane stripe would not be a benefit for bicyclists.
Originally Posted by
buzzman
But since your opinion is a fact all of this will fall on deaf ears and like a bicycle wheel in a training stand it will go round and round and round but take us nowhere. But I suppose it's good for the exercise.
I have never stated that my opinion is a fact; I have stated that
what my opinion is is a fact. You are again purposely distorting what I said for your own purpose (to disparage the person with whom you have a disagreement, as usual).