Originally Posted by
operator
The vice technique is completely inferior to using a bolt to hold the splined tool in. With the vice method you still have no way of retaining the tool on the bike and you are limited by the leverage by the length of the bike.
The only thing that keeps the bike on the tool is the weight of the bike - for stubborn bb's, this just won't work.
It's never failed me, in fact, it surprises me how easily the BB comes loose. When I resort to using it, however, I always get somebody to help me keep the bike level.