Originally Posted by
operator
The vice technique is completely inferior to using a bolt to hold the splined tool in. With the vice method you still have no way of retaining the tool on the bike and you are limited by the leverage by the length of the bike.
The only thing that keeps the bike on the tool is the weight of the bike - for stubborn bb's, this just won't work.
what? you don't use the vise without attaching the bb tool to the bb. i use a skewer to hold the tool to the bb, clamp the tool on the vise, then use the frame as a lever to loosen the seized bb. used this method yesterday to get an 8 yr old bb off a mtb. first tried to attach the tool to the bb with the skewer and use a 12" adjustable wrench and it just wouldn't budge no mater how much i leaned into it. took it to my lbs a block and a half a way, used their vise, mission accomplished.