Dude, lay off. Veganrider hasn't threatened you. I'm a vegan and don't generally buy leather products, but made a decision to buy leather soccer cleats as the artificial versions just aren't as good- and if taken care of should last for a very long time. Veganrider might have considered this with the saddle, as Brooks has gained a great reputation for quality, and should last almost forever. That said, I'm going to go bite into a giant beet salad now.