I still really wish Stratton would have gotten serious with some real tubing. EVERYONE uses 4130, because I guess most people in the fixed world can't distinguish between that and the better stuff. 4130 is great for bashing around hopping curbs and locking up, but sometimes you want something better. I'm pretty sure if Stratton used that Columbus Spirit tubing that people lust after on NJS bikes, or possibly some 853, people would be more excited and less inclined to trash talk the final product. I mean, Soma does the Rush with Tange Prestige main triangle/4130 rear triangle, which is going to be much better feeling than all 4130. I have a 4130 frame (KHS/Kilo TT) and like it, but with that said I can't wait to upgrade to Platinum OX.

Seems to me most NJS keirin racers, which would be the only pro track event on earth where everyone must use steel, are using Tange No. 1/2, Kaisei 8630/017/019, Reynolds 7/853 and Columbus Spirit/Keirin. If plain old DB 4130 was so great on the track (which Stratton insists he's building these frames for), I'm sure the keirin guys would be using that stuff too.

Stratton if you're reading this, I'm not trying to be harsh or bitter, just critical. I know you fulfilled a dream of putting out your own track frame. My rant is meant to be constructive. In 3(!) months Bikesdirect is going to be putting out the Kilo TT Pro and even though it has no lugs, I think people are going to **** their pants over it.