I have a Team Pro that you would have to steal off my bike if I where to part with it. I used the proof hide per instructions and have been in love ever since. One of the best tips I can give is to put one of those plastic grocery bags under the saddle between the rails and tie it over it in a rain. Then you just sit on the bag over the saddle. BTW I weigh 245 and ride an all Al frame bike and this is the best money, out side of realy good bike shorts, I have spent!