I've thought about the "whack" from a frame pump, also wondered, if the dog did attack could I stuff the pump down its throat? Tough to bite with a pump between the teeth. But I read of an instance where a police officer had to fire five rounds into a rottwiler (sp?) to stop a charge, The report said the dog would shudder with each impact, but kept on coming till hit five times. I don't think I stand a chance with my pump.

Goatbiker