Originally Posted by spambait11

Just to be clear:

1. In the midst of passion, don't neglect reason.

2. Saying something is overpriced does NOT mean:
- it is not useful
- it cannot change or alter your lifestyle for the better
- it does not have other tangible/intangible benefits
- it is a bad design
- it is unequivocal proof that you are evil for purchasing/consuming said item

But fanaticism and unhealthy brand loyalty make you think someone is saying these things when s/he is not.

Saying something is overpriced just means, compared to other similar items fulfilling the same wants or needs, it is overpriced. I suppose this should be distinguished from someone who says "I'm not paying that because, in general, I'm cheap." But on forums, it is hard to distinguish because both concepts seem related, depending on the individual.

3. Xtracyle and/or Surly really needs to come out with a good kickstand esp. for heavy/severe cargo loading. It will make the bike more useful in general and will be a benefit to Big Dummy as well as Xtracycle owners, and may spur other cargo bike makers to do the same. Of their whole longtail design, the kickstand, imo, is their weakest, and in many ways most crucial, oversight (others are free to amend this opinion or disagree). My explicit criticisms were/are confined mainly to this area.

Moreover, be of good cheer. I don't think anyone has an ethical or moral problem with longtails, and I'm glad a mere picture could change your life so radically. You must be a visual learner.