Originally Posted by
Severian
Note, not an ACTUAL victory. Because everyone ELSE is convinced you wasted your time. And you're convinced that everyone else is crazy because your way worked (ish). As mentioned; yes, you managed to separate the links in your chain and put it back together. BUT, you also managed to break your tools in the process. Net physical victory of 0.
Let it suffice to say that you have no idea what you're talking about. I know my expenses and my efforts and despite the advice to the contrary, I assure you that my method was a victory.
What amazes me is that, despite the fact that I was the only person knowing the full details of the situation and the only person to witness the entire process (and, therefore, I'm the only person qualified to make a determination as to whether or not it was a victory) you have somehow twisted things around in your mind to conclude that you, just some guy on the internet, somehow have a basis to challenge my determination.
Originally Posted by
Severian
And this thread isn't going much better (though, 5 pages in and we haven't yet Godwin'd). You've convinced yourself that EVERYONE is wrong except you. And this DESPITE THE FACT that you've had constructive criticism of your point of view and serious questions about how you operate a bicycle.
I've read very little constructive criticism and the only questions are from those ignorant of the situation, who, once again choose to believe that they somehow have even the slightest clue as to how I operate a bicycle. Once again, I'm the only one here that knows anything about how I actually operate a bicycle. Therefore, I'm the only one in a position to question anything about it and anyone who thinks otherwise is obviously full of crap.
Originally Posted by
Severian
Wrap this up in a bow and mail it and your chain thread to
David Gordon Wilson. And maybe you should read his book. You may find that actual science has something to say about everything you seem to think you know so much about.
Speaking of actual science, you might want to try it sometime. It involves actually trying something and observing what happens as opposed to just reading it in some book, depending on common wisdom, or taking a poll of 15 supposed internet experts.
Actual science is what I do. I actually physically try things and, instead of just assuming that 15 supposed experts on the internet must be right, I actually observe what happens and use that to draw my conclusions.
Originally Posted by
Severian
And about your 9/10? If you were really right... well then the rest of us (myself included since I used a chain tool at least 3 times today) would be dropping our chains (and our customers chains) in the street on a regular basis.
I doubt most of you would even realize it if you were dropping your chains...at least not without reading it in some book or having some internet "expert" point it out to you first.
Originally Posted by
Paul L.
Aw crap, I knew I shouldn't have taken those vaccines, and my wife could have avoided that whole ankle operation with a plate and 12 screws if she would have just come on home and smacked it back into shape with a hammer a few times and used a nail to pin it. Well, I am never trusting an expert again. Thank you very much, I'm going to save a fortune in medical insurance.
In all seriousness, occasionally people win the intellectual lottery and find something the experts missed but I seriously do not think this is one of those cases.
Well how occasionally is it? I'd bet that you have no idea because you're the kind of guy that most often doesn't bother to even consider the possibility that the experts are wrong.
Well, let me tell you, I'm the guy that questions the expert every time and I'm telling you the reality is that the experts miss things way more than occasionally. Why? Probably for the same reason that you don't catch it...because they're trusting what they heard from another "expert".
Don't believe me? Try it. Start questioning everything you hear and see for yourself. Then you won't be such a pain in my side. You'd be amazed at how much you can learn by just opening your eyes and observing.