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Originally Posted by makeinu
Please, don't try to lecture me about science. Part of my job happens to be trying to separate real science from just "some of the things scientists do" and, between the two of us, you're the one whose ideas on science are way off base.
Huh? There's a difference between 'real science' and 'some of the things scientists do'? Science is studying the natural world, applying the scientific method and trying to discover new ways of looking at the world. It isn't reinventing the wheel each time you go into the lab. Do you start each day trying to figure out atomic theory based on the models of the ancient Greece? If you do, tell me how much progress you make by the end of the day.

Everyone that does real science (not your variety) builds on the work of others. It's just not cricket to redo other people's work even if you discovered it independently...unless you happen to be doing it at the same time. If you were to say that you had discovered a new way of doing something that is obviously more difficult, more elaborate and gave a worse result, you'd be laughed off any podium in the world.


Originally Posted by makeinu
Actually I think you should try taking my advice because you obviously have failed to understand the issues at hand here. Spend some more time considering braking arrangements and chain tools and perhaps you'll better understand exactly what it is that other clever monkeys have and have not figured out.
Millions of bicycles have been made with hand brakes and millions of people use them everyday. They seem to be able to steer, brake and still manage not to run into cars, building, people, busses and other objects hundreds of times per day. And, since you seemed to have missed the boat, take a look at my thoughts on braking here. You could say that I've thought about it a whole lot.

As for chains and working on bikes, I've tried your method (yes, I've seen your silliness before) long ago. There are better, easier, quicker, less elaborate ways of doing it. If someone comes up with a better method then the current chain tools, I have an open enough mind to adopt those methods. Here's a hint: your method ain't it!
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