What did I do in this thread, save for my over exaggerating of carbon bar prices (which I accepted without challenge)? Last time I checked, I've been giving out less and less mis-information lately, and I even challaenged the idea of getting a flat bar BEFORE you oldsters came into this thread.

Also, I'm having qualms about listening to you guys. Sure, you might be knowledgeable, but have some modesty. It's difficult to listen to someone who fancies themself ultimately superior. Also, this "Grom" crap is escalating to a point that's even worse than roadies calling each other Freds, when it's purely something based on past posts and has to correlation to someone's current state of mind. You also elminated me from the Forum Ride becuase I stated I liked my saddle for it's looks and funcionality, 66.... Just saying....

Not saying I don't respect you all and everything, but you guys seem to have a mildly elitist nature, a strong dislike of "Groms" and a quick trigger finger to ruin reputations.