They look pretty heavy before anything much gets mounted. I would like to have a project that screamed for that much load carrying, but I don't, except perhaps some backcountry floatube fishing/camping. I do need something for the city though.

Like the Coffee it looks a little lighter. Unfortunately given the primary use of these bikes they don't really have very Touring like front ends. The coffee might be nicer in that respect also, if it has the right braz-ons it would be sweet.