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I stay as far from the gutter as I can... probably haven't ridden in one since the 5th grade... back in the '60s. Would be awful difficult to do the tours I have done while riding in the gutter... especially touring Baja, as they generally don't have gutters, or curbs, or bike lanes, or even center stripes.



Yeah our experience is different, but only because I take note of how our general society does treat cyclists.

I know a few "strict" VC cyclists and it is amazing how their responses tend to boil down to "oh just ignore the honking... " Even Forester has mentioned that... while ignoring that the honking is symptom of a larger problem.