Originally Posted by
geosherman
What a beautiful day for this ride! The views from Deer Creek and Saddle Peak were particularly awe inspiring. What was your altitude gain - my Garmin said 11,500. Seems a tad bit high. Then again during that last push up to Piuma (made more difficult by the cumulative fatigue) my legs were talking to me... I am looking forward to riding with you guys at the Mulholland Challenge next month!
I'll be looking forward to meeting you again too, you are model of efficient climbing

. A great ride yesterday, a better idea of what to expect.
How would you characterize the opening Topanga/Old Topanga, That's the only Canyon that I haven't visited yet?
I was trying to remember, on the way over to Deer Creek, that jog we did with the savage kick up at the beginning was that Cotharin?