[QUOTE=grackle;6383801]Do any of these shoes let you walk on concrete without grinding the cleat? I'm looking for a casual-looking pair of shoes for fairly short trips. I just bought a pair of the Keen Commuters, which are amazingly comfortable, but as soon as I walk outside, it's CRUNCH, CRUNCH, CRUNCH.

Do you use crank brothers pedals? The cleats are way less crunchy compared to shimano. I have had a few pairs of shoes that crunch all over the place with shimano cleats, but are totally silent with my eggbeater cleats. I've had this experience with specialized sonoma, shimano sandal, and cannondale roam.