[whoops, didn't see this was an ancient thread resurrected]
>Anyone actualy weigh those tents? They never used to come close to making weight.

Very interesting thought. I've just weighed my 1.8 kg 2 man (but really 1 man and 1 woman, if you know what I mean...) McKinley tent and it's...1817g (exactly 4 pounds). Definitely 2 season (full mesh inside) and pretty small, but big enough for all my gear and me if going solo. With a partner and two hiking packs it's not really possible to get them both inside, but two sets of panniers - maybe.

In bright blue it's not too "stealth" though: http://picasaweb.google.com/Stevage/...43702660366354

A 4 season tent lighter than 1.8 kgs sounds pretty amazing. Wonder how much it cost?

Steve