I too got the ironman bug. In all my carbon research, I found out that they made a carbon version, and coincidentally one popped up on CL near me for $150. Some sweet talking on the price and I am now 24 hours into owning a 60cm Carbon Dave Scott Ironman with full shimano 600, sugino cranks, 105 hubs on araya rims. I just want the frame, if anyone is interested in a complete components group in good shape. So hello to a fellow new member of club centurion ironman