Thanks Hillrider, an excellent, clear explanation that even I can follow! I thought it was a bit strange because if you could build a decent frame from simply laminating and baking linen fabric, some of us would be riding modified monocoque table cloths with napkin fork blades and be quite a bit richer! Seriously though, If I understand you correctly the flax is made into a material similar to the normal carbon so it's not really a lot different. I guess I was hoping for some sort of clarification when I posted the item and once again, Bike Forum came up with the goods! Much obliged.