Thanks for quick response Machka.

Back in NJ (rolling hills, some short steep climbs) i used to be able to ride with the A-Group through the hills. Once we hit the Great Swamp (ironic that i live in the swamp-state now isnt it?) they'd be going around 25MPH for the 5 mile out-back stretch that ran through the swamp. I'd bottom out at a 20 - 22 MPH average (thus getting toasted by them)....but that was more of a TT-like thing.

So perhaps 20 MPH might be too lofty of a goal. Lets lower it to 18 MPH then. I know i should be able to hold that, as i believe i was close/able to do that in longer, rolling hill type rides of NJ. I figure that should be attainable, as i am already at the 15 - 16 MPH mark.