Originally Posted by crust & crumb

i do own a de bernardi frame, it is however, not built yet. i can say though, de bernardi is drilling the thron frames now, the fork is a sloped crown, and i can tell the paint isn't going to last. that said, 450 dollars for a lugged thron track frame (http://www.worldclasscycles.com) is a fine value in my opinion. [165] and skitbra both own de bernardi thron frames- either of which i'm sure would be more than willing to give you an evaluation of the quality/performance.