I've definitely seen lamer. Those risers actually like kind of functional. The really bad ones are the ones where the bars protrude from the stem for exactly the length of an Oury grip or smaller. I don't understand how that can possibly be comfortable, especially for climbing or riding brakeless. I have no real beef with flat bars and risers, as long as they're sufficiently wide for climbing, sprinting and all the other **** that we do on bikes.