Calisthenic road biker? How did you know I sometimes do arm circles while riding? Seriously, I use the same position on my racing bike as on my touring and mountain bike. It is the position a framebuilder and I determined back in 1978 using the old blue Itialian Olympic Cycling book whose name escapes me (I.O.C.C. ??) . I am 5' 11" and my bars are about one and a quarter inches below the level of the seat. Ride in whatever position you want, but keep in mind the more weight that you take off your hands by sitting upright is that much more weight on your rear end. I don't equate time spent touring with needing a more upright position. You might be amazed at how much time real competetive cyclists spend on their bikes.