hmmm...i seem to be the only one. i have the rapha fixed. use them in winter. i love them! nice fit. i have th elargest size they make though and do not consider myself self especially large 6 footish, 80kg...and they are snug, but not overtight. nice and flexy. about the cost, i live in australia and our dollar was doing well for a change and they were actually quite cheap...it was a while back but it was something like 120aud. super. not that i ahve any but i dont think you can get knicks for that much. my other riding pants are ground effects super tankers, which are greta and standard fox baggies. the rapha are the most sleek but i love them all...