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Old 06-14-08 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by djs
Again it depends on what you want to do. The Surly is known to be a tank. That can be good or not so good. You are in SF? Maybe a lighter bike would suit you for the hills...any less weight is good. For more distance...maybe the Surly. I wouldn't want to use cantis on SF hills.
I did messenger work in SF, so I've done lots of fast descents and emergency stops on those hills. Speaking from experience: Cantis are more than adequate - they generate as much braking as a bike can take without flipping on a steep descent. Discs are really useful in the wet. I'd prefer discs myself, but I'd make a bigger thing of them in Seattle or the UK than SF. If my priority was braking on SF hills, then I'd get a long top tube MTB with medium slicks with either type of brake over any cyclo frame - the geometry and wider rubber allows more aggressive braking before flipping. But I really wouldn't worry; either a Crosscheck or Poprad should be fine by any practical standard.
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