Originally Posted by Ed Holland

Through the looking glass - do we consider a "Person in a car" or just an inexperienced or inattentive driver? or just a driver?

I really believe it is disingenuous to continue this idea of the "proper cyclist" or whatever label one might choose. We've divided ourselves before with all that thinly disguised elitism in the VC arena, and I for one would be happy to avoid a repeat performance.