Originally Posted by
maddmaxx
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Agree with the last 2 posts and in addition I would recomend spoke washers be used under the spoke heads to minimize the "banging around" that the usual 2.0mm spoke does in a 2.3mm hole when the tension nears 0 on the left side of a rear wheel.
The Alpine III does a much better job. It fills the 2.3mm hub hole so that there is less movement. I only build with the Alpines now. I have one set on a rear wheel of a mountain bike that has been ridden hard for over 5 years without any kind of trouble.