We have seen this debate way more than is necessary over the past few years.

I have no problem with BD bikes (I even have a teammate who podiums on his regularly), but BD is hardly a role model for the straight-talk business model.

Saying that frames are made in the same factory as high end name brand models implies nothing but that they are made in the same factory. Quality control, batches, lots.....heck, even lines.....could be all over the board and and still come from the same factory.

It is just nonsense to imply that the frames are the same quality just because they are made at the same factory. If they are the same quality because they are the same frame, well, that is another matter. But as of yet, BD has yet to say that. Instead, he seems to purposely imply just that with sideways and leading statements.

Just as it is nonsense to state that the msrp on a generic bike is the same as it is on a high end name brand. I work in retail and I know that house brands cannot command the same price as name brands, so it is rediculous to imply that the msrp is the same. We have an outdoor gear distributor here in the west named Pedersens that pulls the same crap.