I've been seeing risers lately with an even higher rise that most (somewhere between the regular riser bar, and the bmx bars) and even people putting bmx style gooseneck stems on fixedgear bikes. It just shows the evolution of trick fixed gear riding...it's called trial & error, people are always gonna do wierd stuff with bikes. i see a lot of posts here where people say things like "you wanna do tricks like that, get on a bmx...etc." I'm sure back in the mid-70's a lot of those early bmx guys got crap flung their way for doing un-conventional things w/ their bikes, putting on wierd handlebars, etc. same goes for MTB. Nowadays, there are the people who wait for big companies to come up with innovations, and there's the people who come up with their own. If people didn't tinker, and try new stuff, we'd still be riding penny-farthings.