nice...Maybe you can hang with a 40-50 mile fun ride and 20 mile RT commutes on your bike? I'll take the conversion for now, thanks. I like the Panisonics' lugged frame and it fits me just fine. No worries on long rides and I even run a rack, pannier, SPD's, lights and brakes! MTB seat, drops and running an ENO hub. I guess if being happy with what I'm running makes me a loser...

So your poll was to get all the conversion riders in one place so you could play your 'loser' card?

Jack-hole.