Originally Posted by damocles1

So you're saying that a set of 50mm deep aero wheels with aero spokes don't give you any advantage over a set of Mavic Reflex hoops with Corsa tubs? You, my friend, need to share whatever it is you are smoking...
Everyone that can afford it, from pro level down to Fred, is riding and racing deep carbon wheels. You know why? They weigh the same or less than your vaunted tubs, they are far stiffer and far more aero.
And the waterbottle analogy is moot in this day and age. Hell, the DT on my Ridley is almost as big as a waterbottle.
I've never felt the inkling of a crosswind on my 50mm wheels and believe me when I tell you, throwing them into a corner @ 30+ isn't a big concern.
I'd call you a luddite, but you'd probably thank me...