Originally posted by cycletourist
2) Cities are 1000+ years old and thus not really suited to automobiles.
Evidence of this is in America. A few years ago 6 of use went to Boston (north of about 30 miles, don't remember the town) and of course went into Boston one evening to see it. Driving around Boston was horrible. Some of the older parts of the city I could hardly get the minivan through some of the turns because of the streets and parked cars. I know if I lived there (never happen, but for other reasons) I would use alternate transportation. This also brings up an interesting point. With 6 of use (training class) we could use one minivan that about 23 MPG. If we had to use cars, we would have had to use 2, and 2 cars at say 30 MPG would average only 15 MPG. We could not use a sub compact due to the amount of lugage (4 were female and had way more lugage than the males, don't start a thread on that, it was just a fact) so mid-size was the best we could have done.